Wednesday, December 29, 2021

Great moments in propaganda

 1918-8-13 "To Hell With The Kaiser" Ad for movie. 

"It is a magnificent commingling of fact and imagination, showing how Wilhelm the monster of Europe, signs a pact with Satan for the mastery of the world." Uh. 

1917 college pictures

 https://newscomwc.newspapers.com/image/169066625/?terms=%22delaware%20county%20league%22&match=1

Two major leaguers, Cy Twombly and Joe (Howard) Berry pictured.

Tuesday, December 28, 2021

MILB and Great Depression

 http://riveraveblues.com/2010/03/guest-post-baseball-the-yankees-and-the-great-depression-24601/

Clare Victor Dwiggins breaks the fourth wall, 1915.

 https://newscomwc.newspapers.com/image/76017304/?terms=%22new%20jersey%20manufacturers%20league%22&pqsid=lBEjvV8qbCaVHAcmIS3SBg%3A3041000%3A714959146&match=1

How the great depression affected small businesses

 https://biziq.com/blog/american-small-businesses-past-present-and-future/

Small businesses suffered great losses during the Dust Bowl and the subsequent Great Depression during the 1930s. From 1929 to 1933, manufacturing productivity decreased by a third, while prices fell by 20%, causing severe deflation. Unemployment skyrocketed from 4% to 25%. In 1931 alone, 28,285 businesses failed, at a rate of 133 a day. Most of these were small businesses.

Monday, December 20, 2021

COMC flipping advice Blowout cards

 Do you guys only buy cards to flip that have 1 listed, so that way if someone wants that card they have to buy yours? Seems like the most logical way to flip but I have no experience doing it.

Yes, it's one strategy. Key is still to squeeze a great price when buying it, then more room to adjust the new price accordingly.

Another strategy is to target items that have 4 or less cards listed, safer in my humble experience.


I also look for cards where there is a wide gap in pricing. Found one last night that was 12 cents there was one other listed for 1.25 bought is and put 74 cents on it sold it in about 30 minutes. This often works even when there are many copies on the site.


I buy and flip cards which can be priced under $0.75 to avoid storage fees. I used the revenue from the flips to buy more cards. I'm to a point where I have over 20,000 cards and virtually no storage fees.

By downloading my sales history from 2014 and 2015, I made a net profit of $222.88 in low-end flips in 2014. So far in 2015, I've netted $35.91.

Most of these are cards I buy for $0.10-0.15 and sell for $0.25-$0.50.


m relatively new to flipping o the site (June/July free sale 2014) But I have built a decent port from about 200 cards I had on there through my intl mailbox, a 300 card submission and about $300 in deposits. I now have 2891 items in inventory (2715 for sale) and an asking price of over $12k (I am yet to cash any out, alays "reinvest") obv, I wont get $12k for it but most of my stuff is lowest on site

I'll give this a go to help out a (hopefully) soon to be first timer.

There seems to be many different approaches that work so by no means do I consider mine "best practice" but it works for me, mainly I think because I have somewhat of a budget and never have more than $100 in my account. Put it this way, I couldnt spend $300 on a card to sell at $390 but Bars and Bar does and he seems to really know his market and what a card will sell quickly for and seems to do really well and his flips are ballsy and I love reading about them

I was lucky because I sold some PC cards from ebay in my intl mailbox for decent (much higher than I paid on ebay) I sold 10 cards for $210 and figured I would use that to try flipping. I hit a legitimate 75% off sale that had some good low end jersey and autos and a few others during the period and with that initial $210 plus about another $150 I had a workable port. Patience is key, dont spend credit for the sake of it on marginal flips because as soon as you do, you will have no credit and the next day a ridiculous sale will hit or you will find a stupidly underpriced card and you either have to pass or add more credit (which will cost you 20% sooner or later)

Know your market and USE EBAY RECENT SALES to see if the card is selling at auction. My most consistent flips are COMC cards I buy for $1 and under that sell for 99c+shipping on ebay, because someone is paying $3-$4 dlvd for them and I list them around that.

Know your market. I am most familiar with football but will buy anything that I consider underpriced with recent ebay sales. Im sure Ive missed out on a lot of other sports as I cant ebay everything when Im trying to scoop up a blowout sale as quick as possible.

Activate AMAZON, even if it means raising everything 20% (Amazon cut), people can make an offer if they dont like full price. NON sport especially goes nuts on Amazon and sucks on COMC.

Scour ebay and Blowout for "lots" to sell on comc, however it is harder for me as I use intl mailbox which cost $1 a cards I stick to underpriced lots with fewer cards. I've only spent about $150 on these all up. Generally not worth it for me. Better flips on site

Margins/markups are a tricky one. I like to AT LEAST double my money but prefer to purchase at 25-33% of relisted price to give me a bit of room to lower prices when undercut. If a card has a very strong sales history I pay a bit more as It will move quickly and you dont always need to be the lowest to sell in good time. I also may lower margin requirement on cards 75c and under as I dont pay storage for them

Some of my high priced cards, I am happy not to sell as I would be fine keeping them so if someone buys they are making it well worth my while (Such as the Brady a few posts above and a few Rivers Ive sold inc. A finest RC auto for $50+ that I got on ebay for $20) and those initial sales I made. The Rivers/Gates /5 auto in my port I paid $35 for, I am happy to have it PC so I have listed it high. I am very happy for it not to sell, but wouldnt be upset if it sold at that price I have it listed at.

Sales for the most part are crap for flipping (prices raised before sale to take 50-75% off) but some sellers have great sales for flippers, you will get to know them. I am in Australia, and while the time difference has meant ive missed out on stuff I have also lucked out and hit some great sales when you guys are asleep. I love how the big free sales start at midnight... that's 6pm my time, and I get all set

Only one copy on site is also a good thing, however, it still needs to be cheap enough. Be wary of how new it is (use recently added sort) if new, disregard sales history if no recorded sales

Check newly added to site cards but this is tedious and usually unfruitfull as most sellers start high to test market and they dont pay storage fees for 3 months. Have picked up some great stuff though, including Russell Wilson contenders champ ticket 2014 /99 for $3.57 and some ssp red ink autos that the seller obv had no idea about.

Maintain your port, lower prices if required to stay competitive and dont be afraid to lose a little on a sale depending on the card/player. Sold a stephen Morris press pass auto yesterday for $1.25 that I paid $1.50 for in preseason when he was still on Jets roster, now he is nowhere so I was happy to get rid of it. I also recently lost a dollar or two on a cpl of Greg Childs auto that I bought when he had some hype with the Vikings, but again, just happy to get rid of them at this stage for a bit of a loss

Ive left heaps out, but that should give you an idea of my approach. Again, others do it differently and Id love to hear what they say about the subject. You can always pm if you have direct questions but Im happy to help, as other have been here to me... SOme great COMC minds here, look back through old threads, etc... I did, worked great


1) COMC has a smaller buyer pool than eBay or Amazon, and what shows up on COMC for $5 or more looks like a $10 card with "free shipping" on eBay. If you list a card for $4.99 or under including the embedded shipping charge, it will show up as 15% more on eBay with a $3.99 shipping fee.
2) Not really, it's not a big enough profit margin for me to worry about. I look for cards I can triple my money. So $2 cards that can sell for $6 or more. At this level, I can buy more cards with my flipping money and expect higher returns. And I have cushion in case the card doesn't sell that I can reduce it a few times before it gets down to where I originally purchased it at.

You also want to change your settings to Advanced Resellers Mode so that you can see the cards without the embedded shipping charges (a quarter for regular cards, 45 cents for topholdered, $1 for graded or oversized). This way you aren't investing an extra quarter for each card you buy to flip, leaving you more flipping money. This is how we see cards for 4 cents on COMC. If you don't have the ARM setting selected, you'll see it as 29 cents. So I can buy 7 cards at 4 cents each to flip for the same amount you can buy one.


1) I feel Comc lags a little behind eBay obviously. Small market, huge market. So that card might not be cross listed yet to eBay. That’s why it hasn’t sold.

2) sure , take a chance. You could leave your cash on Comc doin nothing , or you could put it to work and make money. You’ll be surprised.

When you buy to flip, make sure you buy and reprice to make a profit and also be lowest price on the site or damn near close to the lowest.
Don’t worry about cards with condition notes, just price under the rest of the competition..



https://www.beckett.com/news/not-so-...k-deans-cards/
They have most of the black-background scans on COMC, and are normally way out of whack on pricing. You can eliminate their raw listings from your COMC searches by adding "-dcr" in the search window.


With that I also have over $160 in COMC store credit; it’s possible if you’re patient and your timing is right. Most of my successes come from refreshing the ‘Recently Added’ page, often. My goal is to score a nice Aaron Rodgers Autograph, and I think I’ll have the funds to do so, but there’s nothing that is calling to me as of yet. I suppose shipping and selling on eBay becomes an option to help reach that goal, but my sights might be set higher with a continuation of success. Be patient, the deals are out there. Be diligent to help achieve your goals with your flipping journey. This is a great resource to learn about the deals that are out there.


Can be by clicking: View all sales, then Download Sales History top right


It takes a while to learn the lay of the land and what sells. Just look back at the flips I started out with 5 years ago, and how they've gotten better and better over the years. More capital in my account also lets me grab higher value cards, have more confidence, and buy multiples to own "COMC monopolies" on rare cards that I think have room to grow. I also posted a neat "cheat" I found in my Primer thread that I've used to great success over the years.


I'm not here to mention a particular card, but finally did take the time this morning to download some spreadsheets by year and figure out my ROI on flips only. I rule out submitted cards on my own, so sorted the sheet by "Purchase Price" and removed those that didn't have one.

I sold a little over 2k in cards last year as pure flips for a 56% ROI, after commissions, so utilize the "COMC credit" column if doing this yourself. I use this profit to fund my PC and has worked out fairly well over the past few years. I rarely cash out unless it's a big card I submitted on my own and may have some costs to recoup on it.

I then decided to run the exercise for the first quarter of 2021 and came in at 55% ROI, so over the past 15 months my system has remained fairly consistent and I'm pleased with how it has gone.

If I see a "hot" card that can have a quick turnaround, I'll try and shoot for about 20% for it but like to stay in the range of right around 50% on most and those that do hit the 100% mark or higher end up being outliers to push the total up.

I'm curious to hear how others have fared if you're willing to share, no raw data needed and total profit, just percentages are great to hear.



More interestingly than the flips, this is the first time that I've ever had a significant stash of a player on COMC when they got a no-hitter and so I was watching the market pretty closely from about 10 minutes after the last pitch through to now. Some observations, which I'm curious as to whether they are typical.

- The best time to list seemed to be between 10 and 30 minutes after the no-hitter ended. When I started repricing/pricing logging on 10 minutes afterwards, prices were still going up. As stock dwindled on COMC (and presumably eBay as well, but I wasn't watching eBay in real time afterwards, people started paying silly prices (like the $9.74 for a Bowman chrome rookie above, which is now at less than half that on COMC and can be bought for $1.95 free shipping on eBay).
- With that said, I wish on the cards that I had 3+ copies of that I'd been listing from the 9th inning onwards to catch the top part of the rising curve and to be able to sell more around the top.
- At about 30 minutes out from the final pitch, it appeared that the people digging frantically through 2017 boxes were able to start listing on eBay in enough quantity for the market to peak. This accelerated through the evening. Around 10pm PT there were 80ish results for "Musgrove Topps Chrome 2017" on eBay. By 10.30 PT, that was up to around 120. It's currently 199.
- This and people listing cards from inventory quickly started to bring down prices on COMC.
- I've long believed that people pricing lots of cards the same psychologically deters people from buying them. The flagship base rookie on COMC was a good example of this, with a wall 11 of these priced at $1.99 or $2.00 never getting breached. I suspect if someone had just put all of those in the cart and bought them at final pitch, the price would have got close to the $10 range Topps Chrome and Bowman Chrome were briefly at. It also means that, very unusually, for the moment on COMC his flagship rookie is roughly the price of Gypsy Queen rookie.
- Speaking of which, a brief rant on the subject of people that undercut the low price by a penny or list their cards at exactly the same price as the lowest price and then follow your repricings around so the two lowest cards are always priced the same. EVERYONE LOSES. When people see two or more cards at roughly the same price, it makes it look as no urgency to buy the card, which is particularly dumb in cases the same card is available for less than half the price on eBay since it encourages people to take the time to price check. By all means establish a new low price, but for you own good make it 5%+ (I usually aim for 10% unless it is a very high turnover card) lower than the other available cards. Rusignola has been a terrible offender on this with Musgroves over the last 24 hours. And several people who post here do the same, although at least Boxbuster can plead partially mitigating circumstances that his perma-sale means that this doesn't screw over the next person on eBay crosslistings.

Friday, November 26, 2021

Negro League pictures

 Donaldson, John 1919

Sunday, November 14, 2021

Cricket players in top hats

 Cricket players in top hats

milb

 Regarding the absurdly low pay of minor league players:  

 
1. Of the players with a realistic chance of making the majors, most have bonus money they can use to upgrade their standard of living while in the minors.  
 
2. The rest are there for the love of the game.  If some of them can't get by on that, and leave for greener pastures, they can be easily replaced (you once wrote in a Hey Bill answer that there are always players looking for work).  
 
To what extent, in your view, is each of the above statements true?  
 
Asked by: RexLittle

Answered: 11/14/2021
 Well. . point 1; let me address that.   A couple of years ago, it was widely observed that the average salary for minor league players was less than $10,000 per year.  But no one seems to know what it was, IF YOU INCLUDED THE SIGNING BONUSES THAT WERE PAID when the players entered the system.   My guess. . . .could be wrong. . . my guess is that that would raise or would have raised the average salary of a minor leaguer to somewhere between $45,000 and $50,000.  Quite a bit different. 
 
But this is not to say that there was not a problem.  There WAS a problem.  The problem was that the bonus went to a small subsection of the minor league players, so that most of them actually WERE playing for very little money, while  a minority of them were sitting on large signing bonuses.   It was/is an inequitable system, undesirable from my standpoint.   There WERE exploited workers within the system, in my view.  
 
 
Regarding Point 2, I would question the way that you phrased it.  No doubt the rest of the minor league players love the game, but being a minor league player, playing 140 games plus a month of training.  . it's not a hell of a lot of fun, although almost everybody looks back on it afterward and remembers it as a grand experience.  But it would be equally accurate to say that they are forgoing present earnings in the hope of BIG earnings in the future, when in reality most of them had zero or near-zero chance of seeing those big earnings in the future.  They were being "paid" with an illusion that would eventually disappear on them, with the exception of an occasional player who would somehow break on through to the other side.   
 
It wasn't really a good system.   It was a system in need of reform.   But in order to reform it, you needed to accept a few hard realities that people don't want to hear.   The economic value of a minor league player in 2019 was essentially zero.   It was a different system; the minor leagues were something ENTIRELY different 140 years ago, that had changed a little bit and changed a little bit and changed a little bit, and so there was the . . .what is the word for that?  THere was this "relic" of a structure, a structure inherited from generations ago, which didn't actually serve the needs of the present either from the standpoint of the owners or the standpoint of the players, but it was still there, standing, as Coleridge said of the ancient regime in France before the revolution, still standing because no one yet had taken the trouble to push it over and blow it away.  
 
There is a word for a relic of a structure like that; I can't think what it is.  
 
Most of the minor league players in that era had zero value to the major league teams, absolutely zero value.   They had NEGATIVE value. They weren't bringing in ANY revenue to the major leagues; actually, the opposite.  They were an expense, rather than a revenue producer--and also, they had no asset value.   You couldn't sell them or trade them or get anything in return for them.   Their economic value was zero--zero asset value, and zero value in producing revenue.  
 
 ESSENTIALLY what happened two years ago--which has yet to shake itself out because of the pandemic--but what essentially happened is that the minor leaguers demanded to be paid what they were worth, at which point they discovered that they weren't actually worth anything.  The major league teams told them to get lost, we can move forward just fine without you; thank you very much.  Nobody wants to HEAR that, but that IS what happened.  Employees who had zero economic value demanded to be paid what they were worth. 
 
The "value" of 80% of the minor league players was that they created a competitive structure, a framework of teams, within which the relatively few players who had bright futures could develop their skills.   But, because they were all operating within this played-out structure inherited from generations before, the development costs were dozens of times higher than they needed to be from a practical standpoint.  So the minor leaguers attempt to organize themselves and demand living wages became the hand the pushed over the old, decayed structure within which they were operating.  

Monday, November 8, 2021

Sunday, November 7, 2021

Interesting minor leaguers

 Briger, Joe a catcher 1906-1925, ages 26-45. Never had 100 hits, but was consistently good, even great, in the middle-minors. 
Ponce, Tony
Kitchens, Pop c 25 seasons many in TL
Wantuck, Roman in 1942 for Sheboygan in WSL had a 19-6 record, 2.70 ERA, .291 AVG, and 16 home runs in 62 games. In league all-star game he started, threw 5 shutout innings, and hit 2 home runs. source
Barbary, Red catcher who threw 22 inning game

Friday, October 15, 2021

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Monday, October 11, 2021

Wisconsin State League

 1935 averages as of Sep. 7

1928 and 1929 MVP voting

Semi-pro

 1926 Madison, Wis. city league

Utah semi-pro

 

Northern Utah League

https://www.baseball-reference.com/register/league.cgi?id=1da86e2f

Was actually an outlaw league. Dave Davenport pitched for a while for Ogden, but was expelled from the league because he was too good. 

1921 standings as of 6-26

perfect game by Dave Davenport

stats of Davenport

1921 Commercial League

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Wyoming-Nebraska-Colorado Midwest League

 1921 standings as of September 19th

Dave Davenport pitched for Casper in 1921.

Sunday, October 10, 2021

Net54 note

 https://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=177121

George Sackett

 As of October 11th in 1930, in 31 games he was hitting .487 with 58 hits in 119 at-bats. He had 12 doubles, 3 triples, and 4 homers,  

Hit 23 home runs in 1931.

Had sinus trouble

1936 devoting time to advertising business

Friday, October 8, 2021

Buck Lai picture 1931

 https://newscomwc.newspapers.com/image/543669819/?terms=%22george%20sackett%22&match=1

Frank Bruggy

 http://www.njsportsheroes.com/frankbruggybk.html

https://probasketballencyclopedia.com/player/frank-bruggy/

In-season exhibition games

 https://retrosheet.org/InSeasonExhibitionGames1871-1920.htm

https://retrosheet.org/InSeasonExhibitionGames1921-2012.htm

https://retrosheet.org/ISEGpreface.pdf

https://retrosheet.org/ISEGUpdate.pdf

Otto Rettig

 Pitched for Madison in 1917 in the Tri-County League. Broke arm July 28th, link .

1917 Eastern League?

suspended and released from Springfield

1917 Seton Hall college

1918 Doherty Silk Sox

Record for 1917 Madison Silk Sox, in the Tri-County League:

W  L  SO  IP    RA  R  BB  H  SHO  CG 
7   1   42  68.2 2.23 17 13          4       6

Threw a no-hitter against Ironsides, June 23rd, walking one. His only loss came against Morristown on July 14th. He allowed eleven runs that day, which skewed his RA considerably.  

1917 inter-league games between American Association and International League cancelled

 https://newscomwc.newspapers.com/image/320414457/?terms=rettig&pqsid=YzdF8AYYRtB0Y7xJVOPOtw%3A7681000%3A810431475&match=1

Bill Steen career

 https://newscomwc.newspapers.com/image/607340120/?terms=%22san%20joaquin%20valley%20league%22%20official%20batting%20averages&match=1

Note on SJVL score-keeping

 https://newscomwc.newspapers.com/image/531568527/?terms=%22san%20joaquin%20valley%20league%22%20official%20batting%20averages&pqsid=YzdF8AYYRtB0Y7xJVOPOtw%3A20000%3A1950634803&match=1

SJVL pitcher studying to be a missionary

 https://newscomwc.newspapers.com/image/81839410/?terms=%22san%20joaquin%20valley%20league%22%20official%20batting%20averages&pqsid=YzdF8AYYRtB0Y7xJVOPOtw%3A20000%3A1950634803&match=1

Sun glasses 1914

 https://newscomwc.newspapers.com/image/607211136/?terms=%22san%20joaquin%20valley%20league%22%20official%20batting%20averages&pqsid=YzdF8AYYRtB0Y7xJVOPOtw%3A20000%3A1950634803&match=1

Wednesday, October 6, 2021

1922 PCL pitching

 https://newscomwc.newspapers.com/image/82531645/?terms=%22shellenback%22&match=1

Pro players in semi-pro

California

 SVL

minor league

considerable time:

Clyde Perry BR

Leo Kintana BR

Julius Pappa

Andy House

Jimmy Shinn playing in San Joaquin Valley League as of 1921

Larry Gillick

Ed Anfinson

Cup of coffee:

Charles Lamphere BR

major league

Joe Oeschger https://www.baseball-reference.com/players/o/oeschjo01.shtml

Cliff Garrison

Major League

Falkenberg, Cy 1922 Raisin Belt League
Meusel, Bobby 1921-22 Wilmington
Mishkin, Solly 1923 Hollywood
Rothrock, Jack 1923 Wilmington
Stroud, Sailor 1922 Hanford

Kansas

MLB:

Hendrix, Claude 1921 Herington

New Jersey

Tri-County League

Milb:


MLB:

New York 

 

Oklahoma

Baer, Jack 1950 Elk City Elks 1951 Hobart 1951 Mangum hobart and mangum at same time

MLB:


Pennsylvania

MILB:



MLB:



Texas

MLB: 


Utah

MLB:



Wyoming

MLB:






Sacramento Winter League

 Excellent overview, including league leaders for all history

Monday, October 4, 2021

1921 Federal Reserve Bowling League

 https://newscomwc.newspapers.com/image/572550611/?terms=trolley%20league%20official%20averages&match=1

MBA notes

 1941

Brooklyn Bushwicks

Danny McGee missed at least a month after being hit in the wrist, three bones splintering, in the week 5-5 to 5-11. 

Jim Donnelly was a college player under an assumed name.


1940 

Players in diocese

Non-California semi-pro stats

Missouri-Illinois (Trolley) League

1904 final

1905 Missouri-Illinois (St. Louis) Trolley League final stats

 1906 St. Louis Trolley League no stats

1906-7-08 standings and gossip

1906 stats as of 7-02

1907 incomplete standings

1908 final stats

1909 St. Louis Trolley League-a little history

1909 final stats

1909 "old" Trolley League stats as of August

1910 article about salaries

1910 standings of three different St. Louis leagues

1913 Cherryvale, Kansas

1912 St. Louis Trolley League final averages (.300+ or .500+)

1912 St. Louis Trolley League final averages all players

1915 team leaving

1921 Illinois Trolley League final stats-only .300 and Alton players

1921 St. Louis Trolley League applying for organized baseball status

1921 "Trolley League should be granted o.b status"

1921 final stats

1922 final stats

1922 final team stats

1932 final stats

1933 St. Louis Trolley League final stats

1934 a couple of pictures- Walter Mueller former MLB

1935 final stats

1935 players going to minors

1939 final stats

1903 game preview

1910 upcoming game vs Logan Squares

1935 upcoming postseason series vs Logan Sqaures

1936 changes?



1892 Pennsylvania State standings incomplete (semi-pro?)

1913 Cherryvale, Kansas

Texas

1934 Pampa Road Runners

Oklahoma

1950 Mangum Red Sox as of 6-22

Midwest League

1923 averages as of 8-21

1923 final averages- all stats!

Wisconsin State League

1929 as of 6-02

1929 as of 7-20

1929 as of 8-17

Brooklyn Bushwicks


Metro area

Trolley League

 1910

1914 discussion of relationship with PCL

1914 dispute of players

1914 former players in pros

1916 reported stats